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Title: king john Post by: colin on July 09, 2011, 07:49:36 PM just straightened and cleaned gambos hammered from last weeks glastonbury rally.wish it was mine its a lovely coin in very good condition,he also had a trade weight or i think it is,here are the pics anyway ;)
Title: Re: king john Post by: Villan (Neil) on July 11, 2011, 08:07:18 AM Cracking job,lovely coin ;)
Title: Re: king john Post by: rjm on July 11, 2011, 08:21:05 AM very nice coin. :) Title: Re: king john Post by: tyna on July 11, 2011, 09:47:43 AM Wunderbar :o
Title: Re: king john Post by: StumbledUpon on July 11, 2011, 03:41:50 PM nice job col, ;D well done.
Title: Re: king john Post by: dances with badgers on July 11, 2011, 04:41:33 PM wunderbra also welldone mate
Title: Re: king john Post by: db4 on July 11, 2011, 05:55:28 PM I MAY BE WRONG
but look at www.wildwinds.com/coins/se/se1356b.html (http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/se/se1356b.html) sorry if i,m wrong but it,s a danb good lookalike HENRY III CLASS 7B Title: Re: king john Post by: colin on July 11, 2011, 07:10:14 PM Definitely king John look at the s on the coin that's what gives it away as a John penny ;)
Title: Re: king john Post by: Meatslicer on July 11, 2011, 07:59:32 PM Nah, its a Richard 1 penny 1189-1199ad. Spinks type 1348c 4b.
The moneyer was illiterate and couldnt spell his name. it looks like TRVENE O N.LN which is not a known moneyer. It could also be a very poor attempt at steven but several of the letters are misshapen. Eric Title: Re: king john Post by: DEADLOCK on July 11, 2011, 08:12:53 PM great job done on the coin.
Title: Re: king john Post by: Chef Geoff on July 11, 2011, 08:37:53 PM Eric the penny IS king John, the moneyer was Stivene who minted coins in London from 1199 to 1204. You need a better book ;)
Title: Re: king john Post by: Pipster on July 11, 2011, 09:40:36 PM Eric the penny IS king John, the moneyer was Stivene who minted coins in London from 1199 to 1204. You need a better book ;) And new glasses ;) ;) Title: Re: king john Post by: Jassy on July 11, 2011, 09:54:08 PM beautiful coin!!
Title: Re: king john Post by: Meatslicer on July 12, 2011, 11:33:29 PM I checked King John but couldnt find one with a Sceptre on the right and Spink doesnt show Stivene as a moneyer for John. You may be right about the book Geoff.
Eric Title: Re: king john Post by: Chef Geoff on July 12, 2011, 11:41:56 PM I'm afraid Spink was developed as a sales catalogue of coins they sell and contains only about an eighth of the actual number of British coins that are out there.
Title: Re: king john Post by: Meatslicer on July 12, 2011, 11:58:44 PM I have noticed that Spink has some glaring omissions and the pictures of the coins are tiny so make comparison really hard.
I have been trying an iphone App that is pretty good but it says this coin is richard 1 so dont hold your breath. The S isnt reversed either so I dont know why some are saying it is. There is also this picture of a Richard penny that looks exactly like the one we have been arguing about. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_edmKrgBV5IQ/R96p5H9BAmI/AAAAAAAAAmI/iOxAHXLoRDk/s400/rich+coin.bmp (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_edmKrgBV5IQ/R96p5H9BAmI/AAAAAAAAAmI/iOxAHXLoRDk/s400/rich+coin.bmp) Eric |