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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 06:50:57 PM »

Difficult one - I've been fortunate that a couple of my permissions are from friends who only allow me on their land(not even a guest); although the downside is that it sometimes makes it hard to return a favour and can be lonelier. However on another permission (also a friend) he has allowed a couple of other detectorists on the land;but because I don't get the chance to go so often I have'nt had chance to bump into them yet. It's easy to get protective over land,but as long as the other tectorists are responsible why cause bad feeling,it's impossible to cover every inch of every field urself ,so hey ho. Grin
What I would'nt do is actively seek permission on land that I knew was being detected by someone else or return to a site after an invite to seek permission - both in my opinion BIG NO NO'S. Angry
Personally I would have a chat with the other person, explain the situation and crack on with a clean conscience,  ultimately it's the land owner who has given permission, it's his land, we are only guest; if any squabbles happen he could turn round and refuse all detectorists. Shocked Cry
Better to have a shared permission than no permission...... Wink
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2012, 07:01:25 PM »

I know of two instances where detectorists have taken a guest on large productive sites. The guests have repaid them by approaching the farmers and securing permission for large detecting clubs. Worse case scenario hey! Must be gutting.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2012, 08:25:05 PM »

I went to Suffolk with a few friends a few years ago, one chap who I hadn’t met before called Chris offered to drive me round in his 4x4. Got on great and said he lived near Cardiff, so no problem for my sites I thought. I told him where in Gloucestershire I had a farm that produced 147 Roman brooches.

6 months later he rings me out of the blue, said he had a problem, a farmer had given him permission to detect his farm, and it happened to be the one that had produced the brooches. Not only that, he said  there was one field he was interested in more than any others, even though the maize was 6 foot high, and there was no crop marks on Google.
Guess what it was my brooch field, out of 1000 acre, that was the field he was interested in, what a coincidence! Now I had taken another so called friend on there, and I believe he told him the particular field.

After a heated argument I told him where to go, later I find out  on other forums other people had had similar problems with this guy, and had  muscled in on there sites and got them kicked off. Angry

Over the years i've had over 120 farms, many now are being detected by other people, I have no problem with that, as I cannot do them all, I just hang on to a few select ones. I have also taken well over 100 people on my sites and ask nothing in return, but I don't like being shafted.
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2012, 08:37:36 PM »

I have, I hope a good relationship with my farmers, two of which have come up to me proud as punch to tell me they have refused someone who has phones up for permission and I've told them "Thanks, but you can let them on if you want to".
The reason they both gave was that "your sort of official" lol
What they meant by that was that 99% of finds, after recording, go back to the land owner along with the Pas record sheet, any Roman coins they don't want go to the nearest primary schools and with the farmers permission (which I have to say is 100%) I keep the hammies.
After 35 years detecting I would need a warehouse if I kept my finds lol. so the farer you are with a farmer the better he (and his friends) will be to you which can stop those problems happening in the first place Wink
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2012, 08:42:51 PM »

as a hobby we have a good element and a bad 1 {as in all walks of life}its no fun getting shafted especially when your helping others enjoy a good day out ,,i let several members on here that are local to me know where im tectin or permissions ive got and they return the favour and i havent had any probs with that at all,,,,there was a time last year though when i took a guy tectin on one of my sites ,few days later he phones me up says are you coming tectin,i says no as im busy,next day he told me oh yea i went to that site we went to the other day  Roll Eyes,,,,i was not happy happy about that ,he was a newbie and maybe didnt understand the score ,,but weve buried the hatchet now {at least i hope we have as ive got a new sharpening stone Grin Grin.    
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2012, 08:59:52 PM »

The hatchet, I would need the Charge of the Light Brigade on overtime.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2012, 09:14:21 PM »

lol,,,,,,,totally agree with geoff ,,its easier to just detect a farm than make friends with the farmer but the latter brings far more rewards ,,,if you just turn up at a farm {with permission}without notifing the farmer your there and start tectin {i know people that do} then youve lost a big part of the trust issue ,the farmer will then probably have no qualms about giving someone else permission,,if the only time you go there is when the land is good for tectin and show him bugger all youve found then again youve shot yourself in the foot ....personally all the farms i tect on i send xmas cards every year i go round there  even when the ground is not available just to chat, i leave contact details and offer to help on the farm anyway i can {had 5 days work during june on 2 differant farms} if its coming up to crop time i call or go round several weeks before just to reaffirm the permission ive got ,,,,ive had tea ,in many a farmers house and shown many finds and given several finds over to them ,,,its got to the stage now where farmers phone me when ground is available ....in this hobby you get out what you put in. 
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2012 finds
29 hammys
24 other silver coins pre 1947
2 silver thimbles,,,,2 parts gold medi ring
half noble coin weight
3 silver roman
celtic broach
celtic terret ring
b/a  axe head
1 pilgrims ampulla {1350-1450}
12thc personnel lead seal matrix
2 parts fibula 1 complete
14thc ring broac

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