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« on: March 21, 2011, 08:26:39 AM »

Here's an interesting one. Two weeks ago, I found a tiny silvered disc about the size of a new 5p with a hole in the top, "50" stamped on one side and "FZ" stamped on the other. As it was a Club Dig, everything was recorded and it didn't find its way into the junk box. A quick internet search on "FZ 50" shows it could be a Suzuki motor bike or a Panasonic Camera, but I think it's a little small even for the Japanese  Grin

But then yesterday, on another club dig 20 miles away from the previous one, I found a tiny silvered disc abo... (...you've heard the rest)

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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2011, 08:28:55 AM »

Then on the same field yesterday, this "Georgian halfpenny" revealed something else after a rinse under the tap. Any ideas anyone, as to whether or not its a token or simply an engraved disc?



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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2011, 09:08:04 AM »

Peter or Chef will be better informed in these matters but I would say agricultural tokens from the 1800,s. Still nice to find though and puts history in the land use from a period long gone. I suspect the land owner or trader has initials FZ but as yet a search has proved unfruitful. Well done Sir.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2011, 09:24:48 AM »

Tricky one, first gut feeling on your latter post would be a love token.

http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/lovetokens.htm
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 09:57:05 AM »

Well done on ur nice find
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2011, 03:00:48 PM »

On having a think about the first two seals my guess(and it is only a guess) is that they are seal tags from boxes of fuses (nose cones). ie 50 X FZ would mean 50 fuses and if it was that, then getting 50 in a box would lead me to think they were for mortar rounds rather than artillery shells.
Is there any known training activity during the last unpleasantness  Grin WW II?
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2011, 05:56:00 PM »

only a guess...but could they be discs from seedsacks..??
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2011, 09:24:56 PM »

Hmm,

Three good ideas there.

There were .303's all over the place, but this seems pretty normal no matter where i go. But, yes; that is a sign of some training or action in both areas.

Yes, I found a bag seal too yesterday, maybe they could be another type or identification disc as nomad says..

But if they were a type of "seal" wouldn't they show some type of "crimping" or fastening?

I like the idea of farmers' tokens. Maybe the hole was to string them together, but to find them 20 miles apart is still a mystery. Has anyone else ever found anything similar? They gave lovely hammie signals so i doubt if anyone on here would've ignored them.

Thanks everyone for your ideas so far...
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2011, 09:36:35 PM »

Just a quick google search on FZ 50 AND Tractor shows an FZ 50 is a tractor accesory-- front end loading add on....like a fork lift
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