todays other bits

[handyman [Alan}]

i'll leave techony to post his up later. ... but here's my little offering.

a nice surface find of an heraldic mount, and
a beautiful lead mount .. .which until i cleaned it up, didn't give any indication of what was on it. i think its stunning.

enjoy


[...and yes we got wet, muddy and cold!]

[Chef Geoff]

Nice going Alan, some nice medi items there. I love the lead mount, I don't recognise the portrait but looking at his eyes and surprised look, it could well be Edward II around the time of the "poker" incident

[The Doc]

Nice going Alan, some nice medi items there. I love the lead mount, I don't recognise the portrait but looking at his eyes and surprised look, it could well be Edward II around the time of the "poker" incident

 

It is nice Alan - well done!

[bumpyjon]

Npt bad for a day out in the cold and rain 

[Techony]

I love that lead mount, or is it a token  Nice going Handeusman 

Had a mixed bag myself too, bullets, bullets, bullets, bullets, a couple of Eddies, a splindley little whorl and a pot leg. I'm intrigued by the inscription on the broken Eddie though. The cross is at 45 degrees rather than at the top!

Hopefully David will post his up later...

[Chef Geoff]

"a couple of Eddies" he says nonchalantly Well done again Tony. Now come on you know thw ropes by now, pics of the other side would be good

[Techony]

"a couple of Eddies" he says nonchalantly Well done again Tony. Now come on you know thw ropes by now, pics of the other side would be good

 

Hmm. CIVI [gobbledegook] DON  Are you thinking overstrike too Geoff?

[Mungo]

nice mount and bits there..........

[Techony]

Just got the photos in from Dave

Henry V York mint, I think

[benny]

I think your lead mount is actually a pilgrims badge looking at the fastening bits on the back. If so this is a very nice interesting find.

[handyman [Alan}]

hi benny

thanks for that .... it would certainly tie in with the area!

methinx a bit more research to do.

cheers

for other readers .. here's the info from wiki on pilgrim badges ...and a link to a similar one on PAS
http://finds.org.uk/database/search/results/objecttype/pilgrim+badge/broadperiod/MEDIEVAL/page/2

Pilgrim badges were cheaply mass-produced by die-stamping or in moulds so that everyone could afford them; typically the design was only on one side of the metal. Pilgrims wore them on their outer clothing and hats or around the neck to show where they had been on pilgrimage. Today, most pilgrim badges are recovered in or near rivers because Medieval pilgrims believed that the badges would bring good luck if they were thrown into water. Many were displayed in the pilgim's parish church after their return, but these have rarely survived.

The same style and technique was used in the Middle Ages for a variety of purposes; livery badges were presented to employees and allies by great figures, and became highly controversial in the decades leading to the Wars of the Roses. Some funerary badges have survived, including a fine one for the Black Prince. Other badges, with motifs such as hearts, were evidently just a form of cheap jewellery. It is often difficult to decipher and classify corroded medieval badges between these types.

The quality of pilgrim badges varied considerably, with some being naive and crudely made, while others, such as some of those made in the late 14th century at Canterbury for the popular shrine of St Thomas Becket, displayed great craftsmanship and skill. Much rarer examples were made in precious metals for the wealthy; these have mostly been recycled for their valuable materials over the centuries. The most popular shrines sold over 100,000 badges a year, making pilgrim badges the first mass produced tourist souvenir. In 1466, for example, 130,000 badges were sold in a fortnight at Einsiedeln Abbey in Switzerland, yet only a handful of medieval badges from that shrine now survive. Similar statistics can be demonstrated with early prints, another popular form of mass-produced pilgrimage souvenir from the 15th century onwards. These were at first often tiny by modern standards, no bigger than a large postage stamp, and thus affordable even by peasants.

In England the tradition of making and wearing pilgrim badges died out in the early 16th century as pilgrimage initially declined in popularity and was then banned completely as the country became Protestant during the English Reformation, when pilgrimage became regarded as a superstition and idolatrous. The tradition continued in Catholic Europe, however, for some time.

Pilgrim badges usually show an image appropriate to the pilgrimage destination, often including the shrine itself, or a famous image there, or a saint, their attribute, or a scene from their life. These usually enable scholars to identify the shrine from which a badge came.

[bumpyjon]

Very informative, cheers mate

[handyman [Alan}]

Well. its the start of a new week and some of us will do anything to avoid work!!

enjoy these little finds and if u can identify the coin ... feel free to comment.

[i'll let techony post his finds up later!! .. hope ur sitting down Chef!]

[handyman [Alan}]

..and a few more shots of the same coin..

btw -- thx benny for the ID on the pilgrims badge .. much appreciated!

[benny]

Glad to be able to help Alan-Any ideas on which Saint it could be?
And btw--thx for showing me them nice finds you had today,makes me really jealous that I was at work!