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[Whiteduke]

I just rang a farmer who i was pointed to by a good friend of his, with regards permission.
He said i could detect by all means BUT will i have a problem in the fact that someone else
has permission on the farm already.

I told him i haven't a problem with that,but how would you feel if you were the other guy?

has anyone got a shared permission? if so,does it work OK.

its a big farm BTW ,real big.

[imnotginger]

Maybe get together and become detecting bubbys  at the end of the day its the farmers land as long as he,s ok with to of you going on then i dont see the problem ( thats just me )

[nfl]

i would ask the farmer if hes got contact details for whoever tects it ,,,some guys get farms do em once or twice then move on or maybe you could team up with the other guy,,,but i wouldent go on there without trying to find out who already tects it as that can lead to all sorts of problems.

[doddy10]

The farmer owns the land, if he is happy for you to detect on it, then why should another detectorist, especially if you do not know them have any objections ?? It is NOT our land the landowners are free to invite whoever they want to.

[Tafflaff (Rob)]

Absolutely agree with doddy 10. If you approach a farmer and he's happy for you to detect then its nothing to do with any other detectorist out there. Too many detectorists get a little Golem over the land they use.

Its different if a mate takes you to a farm and then you ask for permission, thats a no no.

[Whiteduke]

"but i wouldent go on there without trying to find out who already tects it "

theres a problem with that,the farm is not local,i also have a detecting buddy.
I don't want to ring the farmer back for details of the detectorist already there.

[nfl]

i agree with you rob ,,,but ive been on the other end when a well know club has detetected my land knowing full well that i was tectin it then having the cheek to tell me to ahem go away  ,,

[Chef Geoff]

I'm with NFL lol. I would check if this other detectorist actually detects the land and if so how often. There are some who collect land, to such an extent they can't possibly hope to detect it in 10 lifetimes.

I have a few farms that "some guy did 2 years ago" and that doesn't bother me, but I may think twice if the land was receiving a weekly visit.

If you want to make contact but can't and won't detect the land without then move on, simple.

[Whiteduke]

Oh ,I'm definitely going ,i just wanted a general census on what people thought or have experienced
in such cases.

[avalon]

I’ve got loads of land, and I’ve always avoided other peoples sites up until now, but I’ve had so many problems over the last few years of people actively hunting my sites down, I now think I’ll join them on theirs. At least it will be during the day with the farmers permission.  

[nfl]

ive got a few farms here in wet  herefordshire and its nice that several guys on this site pm me if there after permission for a farm in herefordshire that i may tect on ,,i can say ive never been on anybodys farm where someone is already tectin ,,and if you know a sites being tected makes sense to ask by who ,,as geoff  says if someone else has been tectin said site every week for ages ,youll save youirselves a lot of legwork

[avalon]

What I have found is some people are far too lazy to get their own sites, so rather than do the leg work themselves, they home in on other peoples productive sites. They first make out there your best mate, take you for a drink or two, constantly making notes of things you say. Then head back home to check out the site details on Google, before returning at night or during the day in some instances.

Now genuinely turning up on a site out of the blue will happen as there are only so many farms out there, it’s the parasites I detest.

[waltonbasinman]

It,s a difficult one to get right. NFL, CHEF and Avalon are all correct but it has come to my attention how we are sometimes blind to permissions as well. I got myself a couple of farms originally which like all farms had good days and bad days with varying interest from the landowner. What I was,nt prepared for was the fact that gaining trust from some landowners and passing on finds has bought a lot of other offers of which some has detecting permission already granted. I got permission from a farm between Ludlow and Craven Arms and on my first visit halfway through the day a large chap approached me rather verbally and although I am a big lad he put me back a pace. When I calmed him down and said I had permission it transpired he asked about three years ago and had never been on the fields. Even though the farmer had invited me he did not tell me others had permissions as well even though I,d asked. At the end of the day a few farms should keep a detectorist happy for a life time but when you gain a permission try and find all the details., but those who target rich find farms of the back of others should in the least be named and shamed.

[cardiffian]

There's another side to this as well. It could be that the farmer has never been shown any finds by the other detectorist. He is left wondering why? Or alternatively he thinks there isn't anything to be found. Either way he feels he has nothing to lose by allowing you on. It is all about keeping your farmers sweet and if that guy isn't doing that he can't complain.

I agree you need to speak to him out of courtesy, before you go on. He may raise objections but you can rest assured he will stop short of saying he doesn't want you on there. To do so would risk him falling fowl of the landowner and losing the site completely. However he takes it, you go on afterwards regardless happy in the knowledge that you have done right!

[dances with badgers]

speak to the other guy,he might be a tidy bloke and tell you some tips,we aint all asses.some off us are cool and friendly,give the farmer a bottle of his favourate tipple now and again and show him your green coins lol