Bristol mint hammereds

[Chef Geoff]

Firstly I've got to admit to total ignorance here on types and classes as I really can't get my head around coin collecting, dates for me are the important bit so how can you have a Bristol reverse with a London obverse? surely one is wrongly listed are there any theories on these?

[bristolminelab]

hammered id defo a science chef

[probono]

That Henry is quite interesting - I'm sure it could be improved a little, but most of the problems seem to be the poor strike!

[probono]

Firstly I've got to admit to total ignorance here on types and classes as I really can't get my head around coin collecting, dates for me are the important bit so how can you have a Bristol reverse with a London obverse? surely one is wrongly listed are there any theories on these?

Many of the dies were made in London and then sent out to the various provincial mints....

[Chef Geoff]

Ahhh so the reverse on that groat could have actually been cut and used in London before being sent to Bristol making it in reality a London groat?

[Dale]

Ahhh so the reverse on that groat could have actually been cut and used in London before being sent to Bristol making it in reality a London groat?

sorry Geoff I think it was more the tower bust was used on Bristol groats, not the Tower die being used at Bristol as iv seen Tower Bust 2 on a Bristol groat with a rosette at the end of legend so the die was cut for Bristol.
A friend has got a Ed IV Bristol groat B on breast with a London reverse But what a coin to add to the collection!

Take a look at this one.....................

Edward VI Shilling, Bristol mint, 1549, m.m. TC monogram (over G on obv.), London obverse die with tall narrow bust, rev. Bristol die. rosette before and after date



 

[Chef Geoff]

Isn't that just wishful thinking though as if one die was made for London and the other for Bristol then there is only a 50-50 chance of either and if both were cut in London then the balance surely tips in London's favour if only as a test coin for the die?

[nonker10]

hi dale here you go mate finally got round to photos.both were found just outside of hereford.

[Dale]

Very nice nonker, thanks for showing, do you still own it?

[nonker10]

hi dale
  yes i do still own it,i can manage to part with some  artefacts but i always hang onto the coins.

[Dale]

hi dale
  yes i do still own it,i can manage to part with some  artefacts but i always hang onto the coins.

Thanks for getting back to me, if you ever want to sale it I will be interested and give you a fair price

[Dale]

Isn't that just wishful thinking though as if one die was made for London and the other for Bristol then there is only a 50-50 chance of either and if both were cut in London then the balance surely tips in London's favour if only as a test coin for the die?

Geoff I know where your coming from, but the Henry VIII Tower Bust 2 is classed as a Bristol coin, under William Sharington mint master at the time.
As for the ED VI Bristol obvs, London revs your spot on a test coin, I spoke to a friend about it today, he also has a ED VI London obvs, Bristol revs he showed the coin to Spink they wanted to buy it but he chose not to sale, they said its a unique coin there is no others recorded, he also confirmed Roland's point  

[Chef Geoff]

Oh yes I can see how it's still a Bristol coin but was it actually physically struck in London if not then how do they rationalise the Tower obverse die being in Bristol?
I would of thought that the London connection with both dies would lead to that conclusion and make the coin even more exciting as possibly the first time ever that the Bristol die was used......It works for me anyway

[nonker10]

if i ever do want to sell i would surely let it go to you,having such a local interest.

[Dale]

Oh yes I can see how it's still a Bristol coin but was it actually physically struck in London if not then how do they rationalise the Tower obverse die being in Bristol?
I would of thought that the London connection with both dies would lead to that conclusion and make the coin even more exciting as possibly the first time ever that the Bristol die was used......It works for me anyway

It was struck in Bristol, but the reason the tower bust was used I don't know, I asked the question?